Harnessing Scalar Energy And It's Healing Potential with Tom Paladino (E14)

In this episode, Alex sits down with Tom Paladino, an expert in Scalar Energy to discuss how this alternative energy could transform our lives. After dedicating 40 years of his life to Quantum healing, Tom has developed a unique scalar light instrument which claims to offer a guaranteed, fast, harmless, and painless approach to healing. Inspired by scientific pioneers like Nikola Tesla, Tom's research cannot be explained by conventional medicine and requires a new scientific approach.

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Transcript

Alex Morris (00:01.778)
Tom Palladino, a very warm welcome to the Chronic Illness Coach podcast. Thank you so much for joining me today. Today's conversation really intrigues me. It's nothing that I have come across before. So to get started, I'd love for you to introduce yourself and tell me a little bit about what it is that you do.

Tom Paladino (00:20.961)
Thanks Alex for the invite. I'm a researcher. I work with scalar light, which is the light of the sun and the stars and will demonstrate a scalar light instrument. I am in my laboratory for that purpose. So the new branch of physics that I call it is scalar light. This is not electricity. And as a technology, this offers mankind great prospect, a new technology with new opportunities.

Alex Morris (00:50.515)
Okay, wow, wonderful introduction. It does sound exciting. So this is nothing I have ever come across before. I'm sure many of our listeners, this will be brand new for. So to get us started, really basic, let's stars with the foundation. What is Scalar Energy?

Tom Paladino (01:06.193)
Very simple. It's the initial energy of the stars. The energy that powers the stars is scalar energy, scalar light. So I've been able to capture that initial energy of the universe. Again, it's not electricity. Some people call this chi or zero point energy. Some people call this ether energy. There is another spectrum of energy and that spectrum is scalar energy. And again energy is fundamental. Energy can accomplish so many work tasks. You can put energy to work and it can solve problems.

Alex Morris (01:47.826)
Okay, and how, because scalar energy seems to be the kind of energy that maybe we're not talking about as much and is less well known. How do, how have we discovered that scalar energy does in fact exist? Like how do, how do we know it's a thing?

Tom Paladino (02:00.865)
Yeah, thank you. By instrumentation, I can control scatter energy by an instrument. There have been other researchers before me that have developed engineered instruments that control it. So if you have an engineered instrument that's following the laws of science, well, then it's valid. And that's what I have, an engineered instrument that can control energy, that can show reproducible results. It's real. We're following the laws of science.

A great mathematician, James Clerk Maxwell, developed equations for scalar energy over 100 years ago. A great pioneer, Nikola Tesla, developed scalar energy instruments that harness scalar energy over 100 years ago. So this is, if you will, this is as a scientific lineage about it. There are established protocol, there are engineers, there are inventors who've harnessed this energy.

It's very promising once again and we are following the laws of science because scalar energy is the fundament. Scalar energy is the driving force of energy.

Alex Morris (03:12.402)
Okay, so to talk about more of the Lineage a little bit to give some more context to what it is that we're discussing today. Can you talk about Maxwell and Tesla and any other kind of founders and how that journey's got to where we are today?

Tom Paladino (03:26.561)
Maxwell, an incredible mathematician, he devised equations in which he proved the existence of scalar energy. Now, frankly, I don't know how he could accomplish that over 100, 150 years ago when there was no instrumentation. But Maxwell was able to abstract that concept that there was another energy and he was able to prove that by mathematical equations. Math is the queen of sciences. So we have to tip our hat to him. 
We have to to acknowledge his achievement. You know, even though it's mathematical theory, it's still, it's most likely true. Moving on to Nikola Tesla. Tesla developed scalar energy instruments. He was able to control this energy. Tesla was able to illuminate light bulbs with scalar energy without wires. I can do that myself. This is my instrument behind me. If I hold up a light bulb, the instrument will illuminate the light bulb. 

Tom Paladino (04:29.665)
Simply because it's radiant energy that light bulb illuminates under the influence of scalar energy. So that's an example.

Alex Morris (04:35.538)
And those two things, sorry to interrupt you, those two things aren't touching. So see, from my view, it looks like it's very, very close to it, but you can confirm that those two things are not touching, it's not magnets.

Tom Paladino (04:44.225)
Yeah, it's not touching it. I'll show another demonstration. This is a light bulb in a plastic packaging, factory packaging. And I simply place it close to the instrument. It illuminates.

Alex Morris (05:01.778)
Wow. Yes, that, yeah, absolutely, I can see that with my own eyes, that's amazing.

Tom Paladino (05:09.601)
So this, what's the point? I have a force field of energy in this laboratory and it's so strong if I hold a light bulb to that instrument, it can illuminate the light bulb. Now, again, that's not electricity, that's a different type of energy. And what Nikola Tesla wanted to do was devise very strong scalar energy instruments and illuminate power cities. He wanted to use this energy, the energy of the stars to power the world.

This is the new energy that we're looking for. Energy from the stars that's clean, unlimited. That's the type of energy we want.

Alex Morris (05:49.49)
That's an incredible introduction. So we've obviously got Maxwell and Tesla, who are some phenomenal scientists and mathematicians who have begun this journey hundreds of years ago. And you know, yourself now you're continuing this. Is there anyone else that you base your work off of when you started this?

Tom Paladino (05:56.705)
Yes.

Tom Paladino (06:06.369)
Yeah. Yes. Yeah, that's a brilliant question. I was fortunate enough to meet a family, a Hieronymus family. They were Americans. They're all deceased. I never met the inventor Galen, but I met his wife. And these instruments are modeled after the work of Galen Hieronymus, the preeminent scientist that the world still does not give the pauper a claim to. 

Long story short, I was able to study under this Hieronymus family and they demonstrated their instruments and I was able to learn from them. And that was my, if you will, my aha moment. That was when I was able to have hands -on experience with Scalar Energy instruments. I was enthralled with their work and I continue their work to this day.

Alex Morris (06:55.538)
Amazing. You've continued a legacy, which I'm sure they are, they would be incredibly grateful for to continue that hard work of the family. So we've summarized our little bit, just the skim, the kind of edges with what Scalar Energy is talking about energy from the stars. This is different from electricity, different from any other energy that we're talking about or is common kind of that we discuss day to day. So tell me a little bit about your product, your instrument. What have you created?

Tom Paladino (07:23.777)
That's a good point. So from the work of Galen Hieronymus, my predecessor, Galen was able to work with photographs of people. Consider that this is not electromagnetic energy. There is a scalar energy signature on a photograph. This is my photograph. And I don't work with people. I work with energy fields on photographs. This is a new science. So people don't physically come to my laboratory. People email me their photographs.

So a person could be in two places at once energetically. So people again don't visit me, they email me their photograph and I place their photograph inside the instrument.

And once their photograph is inside that instrument, I energetically connect with them, not with their biology, but with their force field, their energy field. So to give you an example, we're having a discussion by computer. Well, Alex, you're not in my computer. I'm not in your computer. It's your image that I see. You see my image. Well, when people send me their photograph, they're not in my instrument.

Their image is in my photograph, just as you can see my image on this computer video recording. So this is the new science. You can call it teleconnection. You can call it bilocation, whatever you want, in which I work with energy fields of people on photographs. I never work with people. Now, what's the point? When I work with people energetically through their force field, it's not a biological reaction.

I work at the level of intelligence. So this is not medicine. I don't practice biology. I practice force field connections. There's a gigantic difference. Now, when I work with people, I can improve their health energetically, but there's no biological reaction because I'm not working with a person physically in a biochemical sense. I'm working with information.

Why do I like to work with information? It never makes a mistake. Light information is perfect. A biochemical reaction, sometimes it's advantageous, sometimes not. So I keep it at the level of light, instructions, intelligence, where nothing can go wrong. I don't get involved in the physical world where there's many problems, where there's many side effects. No, I don't do that.

Alex Morris (10:02.002)
Okay, huge number of questions to ask from that. So I'll begin by asking some I'm thinking very much about the first time we had a very initial chat a few weeks ago, just before the podcast. And I remember hearing it for the first time, I'm imagining what our listeners are thinking is they're hearing this for the first time. And then one of the first questions that comes to mind is, well, Tom, a lot of people would just pick that up, obviously, this isn't a photograph, but you know, then just say, well, it's a piece of paper. It's, you know, it's just, it's just a physical piece of paper, a thing, how on earth could not have?

Tom Paladino (10:33.697)
Yes.

That's a brilliant question. And that's the nature of scalar energy. Everything has a signature. Everything has some type of identification. So in the biological world, if that's my fingerprint or this is my DNA, in the scalar, in a force field, even though it's printed on paper, that's a source of light. That light, my skin is a source of light. And it, if you will, downloads or it relates to me. My photograph has my energy field. My energy field is precisely what I have as a person. Quite different, I realise that, but this is true and accurate. My predecessor, Hieronymus, at one time was working with NASA, the space agency, and he was able to work with the astronauts while they were orbiting the moon through their photograph. Galen Hieronymus worked with the Apollo 11 astronauts through their photograph because their photograph, their skin, has a signature. And Galen was able to pick up the vital signs through their photograph while the astronauts were orbiting the moon.

Alex Morris (11:50.322)
Goodness me, that's quite something. And that, what he did with NASA, is that public? Is that available? Could people go and find out more about that?

Tom Paladino (11:57.689)
Yeah. Yeah, it's on my website. And thank you, Alex. Once you get into the science, and you see the results, and you see the case studies, and you read the testimonies, you will be swayed. I realize that this is different. I realize your audience has never heard of this, because this is a unique instrument. Nobody else in the world is doing this. So I'm the only one. But the evidence is overwhelming. It's incontrovertible. The evidence is there.

Alex Morris (12:33.426)
Okay, second question then talking about how this this instrument works. So everything's got energy, it's got the scalar of energy, it's almost got the print this the unique identity on that photograph that you work with. So we've talked about the fact that this is not biology, this is not a biochemical reaction. So how is it the fact that you're right, this instrument is supposedly be able to heal and help people with anything that's going on in their body or any kind of illness or ailment that they're having that my understanding is that

Tom Paladino (13:02.209)
Yes.

Alex Morris (13:03.218)
Is that a biochemical reaction, what's happening to them? Or are you suggesting that it's something different? How does that work if there's a slight difference between biochemical in the body and then scalar energy?

Tom Paladino (13:14.273)
Yeah, that's a great question. This energy is non -physical. There's no electrons or protons. It's not an atom. It's not an atomic. I'm going to show the audience a photograph of a scalar wave. This is a time -lapse photograph of a scalar wave. That's a Tesla coil projecting heavenward. Is this double helix?

That's the energy would look like that if we could see it, but it's invisible. So what's my point? This is non -physical energy. It sends information. It's intelligence. We work at the informational level. And I could pick out on my photograph a disease signature with this instrument. A disease signature and I could eradicate it.

Now keep in mind we're working at the level of intelligence. We're not working physically. So every disease, whether it's autoimmune disease, whether it's some type of allergy, has a signature, has some type of energy field. Scalar energy will recognize that energy field and negate it. So if I have an allergic reaction, it has an energy field. Scalar energy will negate the force field, the energy field of an allergy.

So this is quite fascinating what I've discovered, what my predecessor has discovered. We're not working at the realm of human intellect or human intelligence or human action. This is divine energy. I do not tell this instrument, I do not tell the light how to operate. It's divine. The light simply downloads into a person.

Tom Paladino (15:03.745)
And the light heals energetically. It negates a disease signal. Now, those of you who've done computer programming, you realize how important it is to have your programming, your HTML or whatever, accurate. Because the end result will be the product. So if there's a flaw, there's a flaw in your computer programming, you'll see a flaw, if you will, on the final manifestation.

Or if you're an architect and you have architectural plans and there's a flaw in your architectural plans, you'll see a flaw in the building. So Scalar Energy can pick out a disease flaw and correct it. If there's a mistake, if there's the wrong energy of disease, Scalar Energy, this divine energy, will pick out, will ascertain, will identify the disease signature and correct it by negating it.

Alex Morris (16:03.25)
Wow. Okay. So I want to just for a moment, I think we'll come to discussing very honestly, those, those for and in support of and any criticisms about this. Cause also I think it's important to give both sides of this conversation for our listeners to be able to hear and make up their minds. But before we do that, just quickly, I'd like to touch on, can you tell us what are the rewards and what are the risks? I'd like you to kind of, kind of weigh those two sides out for us with this, with this equipment.

Tom Paladino (16:28.545)
Yes.

Thank you. The reward is its divine intelligence. It's the light of the sun. It's the light of the stars. So what you have to ask yourself, whatever your philosophical religious background, what gives energy to the universe, to the stars? There's trillions upon trillions of stars. I believe that is divine intelligence. So when we're working at the level of intelligence, we only, if you will, can correct by intelligence. We're not involved with the physical body. This is what I'm so keen about. I am not a medical practitioner. This is not a medical instrument. This is an intelligent instrument in which we work with the aura, the force field of a person. And you asked me a great question. What's the risk? What's the drawback? There's none. It's, it cannot produce a biochemical reaction. It's not a biochemical energy. We're working at a higher level of intelligence.

Now, here's my example. Have you ever had an allergic reaction to the stars? Has any star in the Milky Way galaxy caused you any harm? No. No, that's what I'm working with, star energy. So working at the level of a star, star energy, you cannot have a biological reaction. I'm not being curt with anybody in the audience. The stars cannot produce a medical condition.

It's not within their realm. The mental condition is the final result of so many factors, including environmental. So we're not at the physical realm. We're at the realm of intelligence or consciousness.

Alex Morris (18:17.522)
Okay, so do you believe Tom that there is, someone could be listening to this thinking this sounds really good. This is exciting. This is new. This is different. And they could be thinking, you're talking a lot about the fact we're talking, we're working on the information. Information is up here. This is the level we're working at and biochemical is a different level. So someone might be thinking, well, Tom, why is it then if the, like you said, the information from the stars is perfect, it doesn't go wrong, it is on the money. Why then as humans do we develop so many diseases or ailments or illnesses? Is it?

What is, where's that gap? What's, what's going wrong between the, the power of the stars coming into and us being in this universe and humans?

Tom Paladino (18:53.169)
Yes. Yes, you're absolutely right. There is a gap because we're not at the level of intelligence of divine energy. We're at the level of biology. That's the gap. Now, if we were pure spirit beings, there are, I believe there's angels. I believe an angel is composed of this scalar light in which it's impossible for a spirit to become sick. You have to be a biological person to become sick.

If you're being downloaded this energy, this divine energy, this divine intelligence on an ongoing basis, it's impossible to be sick. Sickness will manifest in the physical realm. So keep in mind, I never work in the physical realm. So if we keep things at the level of architectural plans, pretend you're an architect and you're working at that level of intelligence, information.

And as long as your architectural plans are perfect, the result, the physical building, the physical office space will be perfect. So from instructions to manifestation.

Alex Morris (20:05.81)
Okay, so you're, yeah, you acknowledge there is that gap, it is there. And that's why maybe things can go wrong. But then obviously you're working at this level that is, that is different and is not talked about a huge amount. So with that in mind, a more challenging question now, like I said, I want to bring both sides into this. What are the criticisms of your work and maybe your predecessors work?

Tom Paladino (20:15.905)
Yes. Correct.

Tom Paladino (20:32.001)
It's poorly understood and I understand that and you know, I accept that criticism. Much of this has to be accepted by faith. Why? This energy from the stars is omnipresent. There's no basic unit. You cannot measure scalar light. Scalar light is not quantifiable. You cannot measure it. It's infinite energy. So you can't measure it. You can't see it.

It's hard to detect it. I can detect it in my laboratory, but most people cannot detect this star energy. Let's face it. Can we detect that the Milky Way stars are now sending energy to us? I don't know anybody who can detect star energy. So long story short, we can't see this. Our five senses cannot recognize this. Okay, I understand. So we have to look at the results.

My testimony speak for my work. Secondly, nobody can prove or disprove my work because nobody has an instrument like mine. So this is brand new people. This is cutting edge research. And sadly, I have no peers because nobody's developed an instrument like mine. So we have to go upon testimonies.

Alex Morris (21:51.73)
Okay, you mentioned their faith. So I want to ask you a little bit about that. So firstly, are you yourself, are you a faithful man? Do you have a faith that you follow? And is, was that true of those that did the work before you? You know, is this something where all, all of the individuals that have worked on it have been, you know, faith men? And do you think potentially,

Tom Paladino (22:01.473)
Yes.

Alex Morris (22:14.866)
Could that be a criticism of your work? You know, is there an argument for those that maybe are not who are not religious could be saying is it because this comes from a religion?

Tom Paladino (22:24.225)
Yeah, perhaps. Most of the scalar light scientists that I knew, Noah, were religious or at least had some type of belief in a supreme being. So if you don't believe in a supreme being, maybe it's difficult because then you have to ask yourself, what gives energy to the stars? If scalar light is that emanation from the stars, where does the light come from? Who can power trillions upon trillions of stars? I would say it's God without equivocation. But some people, if they don't believe in God, then how will you explain the energy of the stars? How does the energy get there? Where do we derive this light from?

Alex Morris (23:06.13)
So Tom, do you believe that God gives scalar energy? Are we talking about two different things here in terms of God and the stars and scalar energy and the stars?

Tom Paladino (23:12.849)
I believe God is the source of all light, including scalar light. I believe God is behind the stars, so to speak. I believe this energy that is photographed, it's a double helix in composition, that's from God. In other words, you have to have a supreme being to give energy to all the stars. You always have to look at the question, what precedes an event? What precedes an event?

And eventually you have to say what precedes the energy of the stars? What created that energy? And you have to look at it. There's something that is uncaused that created the universe. Because you're always looking for something before that, something before that event. Well, eventually you're going to run out of theories. You have to have something that was uncaused, uncreated, that created light.

What was that uncreated event? It's an uncreated God.

Alex Morris (24:15.09)
Okay, and I don't want to dive too much into religion because it's such a complex conversation that obviously we could be having all in itself. But just quickly on that point, do you then believe, is God in your eyes a being? Is he a physical being like a human or he is?

Tom Paladino (24:27.425)
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm a Christian. I believe there is a Trinity. I'm a holy Trinity. Yes, yes.

Alex Morris (24:36.466)
Okay, so do you think when we go back to your discovery and the work that you do, do you think that any resistance you've felt integrate this into the mainstream world, into media, into medical or scientific world, do you think there is some resistance because it comes from a somewhat background that's based on religion and faith? Do you think that is an element to it?

Tom Paladino (25:00.737)
Yes, I think that's one of the drawbacks right now that the scientific world has not embraced that there is a supreme being. Some scientists are beginning to embrace that and realize that God has his hand in all events, but some in the scientific community don't consider that. Which leads me to my next follow -up. A grassroots movement is needed and that's what I have. 

You see people regardless of their background, people, a grassroots movement not attaching themselves to any scientific group or any political group, people, a grassroots movement believe in this. Why? They feel better. Why? Many of them say they no longer have a disease. The people speak. And if I continue on with this trajectory of grassroots at this grassroots level, we will continue to grow because you cannot keep down good news. The people speak and it spreads through a grassroots movement.

Alex Morris (26:02.29)
Hmm, it is incredibly we've seen throughout history haven't we that if when it begins those foundations, those grassroots, it can be an incredibly powerful movement, regardless of what the movement is about. And so I mean, you just spoke about something that obviously you work your work and your feedback is testimonial, you spoke into that. And I was having a conversation with another practitioner in a very different field to yourself a few weeks ago, and we were discussing the difference between illness and disease.

Tom Paladino (26:22.369)
Yes.

Alex Morris (26:30.418)
And he was explaining to me that illness is actually the experience of how you feel. You can be, you can be ill without a disease and vice versa. So illness is very much how you feel. It's your perception of it. Disease is the medical diagnosed condition should you have one. And they're two very different things that people tend to kind of confuse them or put them into the same pot and you can have one without the other. So talking about testimonial, how do you know in terms of your product, do you have your clients go to their doctor and kind of get any tests or any kind of biochemical evidence to back it up? Or is this about how these individuals feel?

Tom Paladino (27:13.057)
I leave it up to them because I don't want to give them medical advice. I'm not a medical practitioner. So I leave it entirely up to people. But some people will go as far as to have a PCR test for a particular viral infection. I'm going to hold up to this screen. This is a result of a PCR test. This person sent us their photograph. And after we work with this person, this person had a follow -up PCR test and the PCR test shows no viral load for herpes. Now, this cannot be explained by conventional medicine. Why? I don't work with people. What I'm doing is not conventional medicine. So you still have to make this jump, this leap from working with a person's photograph to the person claiming, not my claim, that they no longer have a herpes infection. How can you explain that? You can only explain that by scalar theory.

There is no explanation for this in Newtonian science. This is not Newtonian science. What's the point? We need a new scientific arena. We need new scientific language. We need a new scientific approach. Scalar energy is not electricity. Scalar energy is not electromagnetic. So there's two dimensions. There's two realities. And now we need two viewpoints for those two dimensions.

Alex Morris (28:38.258)
Okay, and thinking about, we talked about the risk and reward, we talked about some criticisms. Let's talk about what support have you had for your work? We've got the testimonials, maybe you can give me an insight into a ballpark figure of how many people you've worked with and have experienced this. Tell me about any support that you have for the work that you're doing.

Tom Paladino (28:58.433)
I've been working with an HIV AIDS clinic. It's called Om Prakash, Om Prakash HIV AIDS Clinic in India. This is a photograph of the Om Prakash HIV AIDS Clinic. I've never been to India, but people from India send me their photograph. Everybody in this photograph at one time was HIV positive. At one time. How do I work with people?

When a person is HIV positive, I look for the signal, the signature of HIV. My instrument can actually look at a magnified photograph of a virus, human immunodeficiency virus, find that signature signal in the person, and bring to a state of chaos the HIV virus in their force field, their energy field, always working at the level of energy. Thereafter, these people have to follow up and get a follow -up PCR test, and many of them do.

And these people from the clinic have told me that they feel better. This is one of the test results from the clinic. After being years of being positive for HIV, this individual claims that they don't have a viral load. And this test result proves that they don't have a viral load for HIV. That's quite promising. But these results cannot be explained by medical science. Why? This is not medical science. I don't work with people. I don't work with the medical community because my work is entirely different.

Alex Morris (30:38.674)
Okay, so you've, I mean, that's fantastic that you're doing work with that clinic in India. So that is a section of that you are working with. So then are you hoping in the future to continue to work with clinics or organizations in America, around the world? What is your hope for the future of who you would like to work with to expand this?

Tom Paladino (30:56.225)
Yes. Yeah, thanks Alex. Everybody. Everybody. Here's one of my goals, Alex. The photographs can be miniaturised. This instrument can easily work with 10 million photographs a day, easily. I'd like to be able to work with a billion photographs in a year.

I'd like to work with a billion people a year.

Alex Morris (31:22.482)
Wow, that is a huge number. And Tom, give me an idea of how many people you're working with at the moment. How long have you been doing this in terms of your website and being able to help people? And how many people are you working with now?

Tom Paladino (31:32.725)
The website went public 13 years ago. Today in my lab I worked with approximately half a million photographs.

We have free sessions, free trials that we offer. We have people from around the world sending us photographs 24 hours a day because they want to feel this energetic sensation. So I treated half a million photographs this morning.

Alex Morris (31:59.634)
My goodness me, that's a huge amount of people. And Tom, have you ever had anyone come back to you in terms of testimonies and say, I don't feel anything or I'm still waiting or this isn't what I expected? Do you have that kind of feedback?

Tom Paladino (32:09.185)
Yeah.

Sure, sure. It's the entire spectrum. Some people have great results. Some people say I haven't felt anything. So I can't in any way downplay that. Everybody's different. And as a new science, I have to be open to everything. So this is why I give away 15 days of free sessions on our website so that people can experience it first. I want people to feel comfortable. But you're right. Everybody is different and everybody is going to have a different take on this.

Alex Morris (32:48.818)
Okay, and one again, slightly challenging question just because I want to just put it out there because you're so honest and you're so open. I really appreciate that. You spoke earlier on in the episode about the fact that because we're working at this different level, this information level, the scalar light information isn't wrong. It doesn't falter. It's perfect. So do you have an explanation for why if we're working at that level of information and the signature with the photographs, do you have an explanation for why some people are saying that they have seen no effect or no difference in themselves?

Tom Paladino (33:18.657)
Yeah, I don't, but it could be environmental factors that are out of my control. It could be their state of psychology that would be out of my control. I will say that every time I've worked with a person and if they had HIV infection, if they had a follow -up test, their test results are always show no viral load, negative, no viral load. Now that's just for one occasion, which is presence of the HIV virus. But there's so many, there's hundreds of thousands of factors that we have to include. And I can't address every factor. It's easy to address one virus or one bacterium at a time. People are complicated. So I won't begrudge the matter. If somebody did not feel the full benefit, then I have to accept that.

Alex Morris (34:12.466)
Yes, I think that's a healthy and appropriate kind of attitude to have because it is, like you say, so complex and humans are renowned for being incredibly complex beings. So final question before I kind of move on to the next area. On that point, would you accept or be open or have you considered the idea that maybe there are some people or some humans it could just not work for? Is that possible for it just not to work on some people?

Tom Paladino (34:40.705)
Sure, sure, sure, sure. I have to accept that. The science is in its infancy. I've had great results, but I'm only one researcher. I can't wait until we have thousands of researchers so that we have their take, so we have their experience to share. Again, this is a very narrow field, and I'm trying to get the information out there. We need other researchers, plain and simple.

Alex Morris (35:09.17)
How do you do that Tom? How do you get, because like you say, you're on your own at the moment and you've continued the work for 40 plus years, which is just phenomenal. And unfortunately, you know, your predecessors have since passed away or are no longer with us. So how does this research continue? How do you keep it going?

Tom Paladino (35:26.849)
I don't know. I'm 64 years of age. I have to be very candid about the matter after a lifetime of research. I don't know of anybody else who wants to put in the time and effort, develop instruments, and then prove their efficacy. This just doesn't happen. So do I have a protege? No. Has anybody ever approached me wanting to spend a lifetime with this and research this to the point of exegesis? No.

So I don't have an answer to that and it's very sad. I'll speak of my predecessor, Galen Hieronymus. Well, back in the 90s when I met the Hieronymus family, there were, I had contemporaries, but they're all deceased now. Everybody that I was working with, these other researchers, they're gone. I don't know of anybody who's taking this up.

Alex Morris (36:20.082)
This is a difficult question, Tom. I ask you with a huge amount of respect to yourself and the work that you do. Is there a reason for that? Could someone challenge you and say, Tom, is there a reason that no one is exploring this? Should it be explored? Can it be explored? Is there a place for it to be explored? That's a difficult question, but I think it's one that needs to be asked.

Tom Paladino (36:43.521)
It's an excellent question. It should be explored. If this is the energy of the stars, then it's the fundament of the universe. You know, you can't, if you will, pass off the energy of the stars. It's the driving force of energy. So why wouldn't this be embraced? And to be quite frank, this represents free energy. And this is a threat to some people. This is a threat to the captains of industry. Free energy is a threat. I think that's one of the reasons.

Alex Morris (37:18.066)
Interesting. It's it that is again a rabbit hole. We could certainly dive down and just on that point is Scalar energy. Do you fundamentally believe that scalar energy is not something that could ever be harnessed and controlled so to speak by anyone or any kind of organization or business or is it will it always be free or is there a risk that it could be controlled by someone?

Tom Paladino (37:41.409)
Yeah, that's the point of my work. I want to introduce this to the world. That's why I have a public website. I want this energy to get out there. And if there are other experimenters that are having success, I want them to come forward. So I want to be an open book. The point of my research is to educate people to introduce this to the world. There from the world must pick it up and expand upon it. I'm only one person. There's only one. One man here, there's only so much I can do.

Alex Morris (38:14.194)
Yeah, absolutely. And you've certainly done everything you can do and you've been doing that for a very long time now, which is amenable. Tom, looking to the future, do you think it is possible for your work and the research into scalar industry, hopefully in future generations, to be integrated into any of the Western medicine or scientific field, or do you see it being solo and on its own?

Tom Paladino (38:39.233)
I would hope there would be integration in every fabric of life, in medicine and telecommunications and energy production. I think eventually you can develop scalar energy for anti -gravity, for transportation. So I would like to see scalar energy introduced and accepted into the fabric of life. Every facet of life should have a scalar energy technology.

Alex Morris (39:06.706)
Wow, wonderful. I mean, wonderful answers. It's an incredible thought to think about to kind of, you know, if you use your imagination to think about the little insight you've given us into what scalar energy is and how, like you say, it could go into every facet of life and how it could potentially be life changing in all the different industries and areas of life that we all kind of operate and live in. So,

Thinking about how we kind of summarise this incredible conversation because it's full of brand new information for our listeners. Could you maybe give our listeners a walkthrough of if someone was to come and try your equipment and to work with you, what does that look like? What does that process involve?

Tom Paladino (39:43.745)
I have a website in which anybody in the world can email us a photograph. The website is scalerlight .com. Now, just send us a bus photograph, just your face. The age of the photograph does not matter. And you can send your family members, get their permission. And for 15 days, we'll work with you. I'll take this energy and I'll balance your brain waves. I'll balance your chakras. I'll take this energy and we can identify microbes in your force field such as the human papillomavirus, a common virus, we can eradicate the signal, the signature of human papillomavirus. That's the second function. 

And then we're also able to take this energy energetically, we can send you nutrients. I actually take photographs of vitamins and I download the energy of a vitamin into a person energetically. So it's not, you're not taking this vitamin orally or through a transdermal patch, no, we send it energetically into your force field. The energy found on this photograph of riboflavin is sent energetically into your force field. So that's our offer. Anybody in the world can sign up for those 15 days of free sessions.

Alex Morris (40:58.866)
Thank you. That's really clear. And I'm sure all of us have got a huge amount to think about. Just quickly, I want to touch on one more point. You've just said something there, which is sparked my interest. So you're able to, like I say, use the picture of nutrients to put on photos of people that work with you and send nutrients. So Tom, scalar energy, let's say we're in a world where it takes off and somehow it is integrated into all walks of life, medical, scientific, everything, transport whatever you can think of.

There is a part of me that's thinking, well, if this works, if we take this and we run with it and our world is changed, why is it that Mother Nature provides us with so many things that we still need? So we're talking about nutrients through the photograph. Is that like an additional, a supplement, and a kind of an add -on for us? Or would you suggest that it eradicates other things that Mother Nature provides for us?

Tom Paladino (41:50.593)
Yes.

Tom Paladino (41:57.537)
It's a supplement when I download this riboflavin. I'm Supplementing my diet now. I'll speak for myself. I eat very well, but I don't take supplements orally I Supplement my diet with scalar energy now that doesn't mean I want anybody to abandon their supplements or their protein shakes but to your point We are imperfect

At this level of physical beings, we are imperfect. There's many imperfections. Light is perfect. So why not give us the energy, the light we need to help us? Keep in mind my work at the energetic level is perfect. Nothing can be flawed. There's no lie. There's no mistake with energy.

Alex Morris (42:45.202)
Okay. And Tom, I want to give you the opportunity actually, just at the end of this episode, to put anything out there. Is there a message you would like to put out for people, whether it's someone that can follow your work and can take up the mantle, can keep going, or whether it's our listeners who are on the fence and they are kind of considering it and they can see the pros and the cons, but they're still not quite sure. I just want to open the floor and let you kind of say what you'd like to say.

Tom Paladino (43:13.889)
Yeah, I want there to be a lively debate about this. I want people to experiment. That's why I give away 15 days of free sessions. And then if the world really takes us seriously, then it's going to be work. Any science, any discipline is work. This is work. I've worked at this my entire life. It's hard work. So the world, somebody is going to have to follow me. Many people are going to have to follow me. Obviously, you don't have one plumber in the world. You don't have one auto mechanic in the world, right? Why would you have one scalar light researcher in the world? It doesn't make sense.

Alex Morris (43:51.474)
Thank you so very much of jump on board and get involved in the discussion. It's not about completely agreeing or completely disagreeing. As you say, it's about having the discussion, getting involved in the debate, learning something new, opening your mind to something you may not have considered before and to put it out there and to get more people involved. And I like that. I love the idea that actually it's not about being a completely devoted to one side or the other. It's just about getting involved in learning something new and having the discussion, right?

Tom Paladino (44:25.889)
Yeah, thank you so much. That's it. I want this to be an open debate. I want people to be prodded. That's the point of our discussion today. I'm demonstrating to the world this new technology. I want the world now to investigate. The next step, there's only so much I can do. The next step is on people. There has to be a grassroots movement.

Alex Morris (44:47.858)
Tom Palladino, thank you so much for your time. It has been incredibly insightful and educating. I've learned a huge amount. I am intrigued by your work and the area of expertise that I have not come across before. So a huge thank you for your time and your expertise. I really appreciate it.

Tom Paladino (45:08.993)
My pleasure. I enjoyed myself. Thank you.